2MF on Clocktower Radio Archive
This page is an archive of our previously recorded episodes in collaboration with Clocktower Radio. In June of 2017, Clocktower Radio opted to forgo their ongoing serial programming to focus on special projects. 2MF is grateful for the time spent recording with Clocktower and we especially thank our producer Jake Nussbaum for all his support.
2MF with Nate Heiges
This episode of 2MF features a discussion with artist Nate Heiges following a meeting at Sunview Luncheonette on January 29, 2017. Mr. Heiges speaks with Maria Stabio and Sonya Derman about domestic spaces and living with art over time. Comparing Donald Trump and Jackie Kennedy’s publicized tours of their homes, we reflect on the ways that people’s relationship with objects and interior architecture promote value systems as well as political myth-making. We consider how the art world may or may not change with the new political climate, and how different considerations of aesthetics played a part in the election.
Music on this episode is “Martine” by Louis Philippe
Post-Election Special - 1/16/17
This special post-election episode of 2MF features a conversation with 2MF alums Amy Beecher and Joshua Smith. The artists speak with hosts Sonya Derman and Maria Stabio about how the election of Trump has affected their outlooks as artists and as political actors. Managing one’s emotional state while maintaining a consistent level of outrage — can it be done? We also revisit the artist Lee Lozano and her words “human first, artist second”. We wrap up with a humorous look at Cathy comics contrasted with Hillary Clinton and how both constantly negotiate with the patriarchy, unsuccessfully.
Music on this episode is That Right Ain’t Shit by The Books.
Sister Gallery / Jenny Lee and Zuriel Waters - 11/20/16
This episode of 2MF features a conversation with artists Jenny Lee and Zuriel Waters of Sister Gallery following a meeting at Knockdown Center on November 20, 2016. The artists speaks with hosts Sonya Derman and Maria Stabio about how the structure of the office informs artists practices. We discuss the increasing professionalization, advanced degrees, and bureaucracies in the art world(s), and the benefits and downfalls from internalizing these structures. How do New York City artists, particularly with a studio-based practice, navigate, use, or subvert these systems while maintaining a sense of authenticity and purpose?
Music on this episode is “Sixteen Tons” by Tennessee Ernie Ford.
Eric Ramos Guerrero - 9/9/16
This episode of 2MF features a conversation with artist Eric Ramos Guerrero following a meeting and workshop at Knockdown Center in Queens, NY on September 9, 2016. Guerrero speaks with hosts Maria Stabio and Sonya Derman about the magnetism of New York as bohemian promise land attracting artists worldwide but often fails to deliver. When reality falls short of expectation, is it best to stay or leave and why?
Music on this episode is titled Is it Me You Really Love by Black Velvet and “Disappointed” by Morrisey.
Kaitlin McDonough - 7/18/16
This episode of 2MF features a conversation with artist Kaitlin McDonough following a meeting and workshop at Orgy Park gallery in Brooklyn, NY on June 25th, 2016. McDonough speaks with hosts Maria Stabio and Sonya Derman about what constitutes performative language and how its nuanced definition plays a role in her painting practice. The three also discuss McDonough’s decision to use unconventional presentation materials in the meeting, the writings of Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick, the periperformative, and the water experiments of Dr. Masaru Emoto. The music in this episode is When in Rome's The Promise, chosen by the artist for its lyrics “I promise you I will..” related to the structure of performative language.
Kerry Downey - 6/13/16
This episode of 2MF features a conversation with artist Kerry Downey following a meeting and workshop at Wendy’s Subway in Brooklyn NY, May 28th, 2016. Downey speaks with host Maria Stabio about her recent video piece Fishing with Angela, which begins as a loose narrative of a fishing trip with artist and mentor Angela Dufresne. The two also discuss mimesis and doubling as the scaffolding of Downey’s work, as well as Downey’s decision to include curator Amy Zion as a moderator of the workshop at Wendy’s Subway.
Music for this episode was done by Kerry Downey.
Ioana Manolache - 5/16/16
This episode of 2MF features a conversation with artist Ioana Manolache following a meeting and workshop at Wendy’s Subway on April 16th, 2016. Manolache speaks with Maria Stabio and Sonya Derman about growing up in Romania and how its religious and cultural traditions connect to her painting practice. The three also discuss the difference between ritual and habit, alchemy and transubstantiation.
Amy Beecher - 4/11/2016

This episode of 2MF features a conversation with artist Amy Beecher, following a meeting and workshop at Torrance Shipman Gallery on March 16th, 2016. Beecher speaks with Maria Stabio and Sonya Derman about the Cathy comic strip series, shame, working within the structures of comedy, and existing and creating artwork in the aftermath of second-wave feminism. Music in the episode is from Harry Gould Harvey IV (HeadCleaner).
Andrea Arrubla - 3/14/2016

This episode of 2MF features artist Andrea Arrubla following an offsite meeting at Torrance Shipman Gallery. Arrubla steps into the studio to discuss her experience as an undocumented person and artist in New York City. She also discusses her work with BHQFU (Bruce High Quality Foundation University), and its influence on her optimistic outlook on the changing New York art world. Music in the episode is by James Allister Sprang.
Bethany Ides - 2/1/2016

This episode of 2MF features artist and writer Bethany Ides. Following an off-site meeting with 2MF hosts at Sunview Luncheonette, Ides steps in the studio to discuss operas and soap operas, Mr. Rogers, intramurality and spectatorship, teaching, and the joy of exceeding reasonable expectations.
All music in this episode is by Bethany Ides
Joshua Smith - 12/7/15

Joshua Smith is our first guest artist.
Joshua Smith is a regularly exhibiting artist whose work has been the subject of solo exhibitions in recent years at Essex Flowers (NY), SOUTHFIRST (NY), Shoot the Lobster (NY), West Street (NY), Art Production Fund (NY) and John Connelly Presents (NY). He is a cofounder of Essex Flowers, a collectively run art gallery in downtown New York.
We discuss his personal journey as an artist living in NY for the past ten years. Along the way: art & morality, Lee Lozano, artist organizing, Essex Flowers, NADA, Shepard Fairey, & appreciation for Tracy Emin.
Songs in the episode are by Sonya Derman:
1. "Contemporary"
2. "Good You Look"
3. "Self Compassion"